Discussion:
Handling next linux upload to unstable
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Cyril Brulebois
2024-09-14 00:00:01 UTC
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Cc += debian-boot@, quoting in full accordingly.

Hi Salvatore,
Hi Cyril, Steve,
Right, this is sensible. We have currently the FTBFS for 6.10.7-1 for
riscv64 and arm64 which needs to be sorted. We either can have this
fixed isolated or do a 6.10.8-1 with the build failure fixes? Is this
near enough timewise?
I don't have any preferences regarding a future wholesale 6.10.y or just
a new revision of the current upstream release. It'd probably just make
sense to avoid upgrading to 6.11.y since I'd guess we would get more
things to look at.
Yes, 6.11.y won't go to unstable anyway before 6.11 is released. So
that will take still some weeks. That means for unstable we will
continue following the 6.10.y series for now.
https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/linux/-/merge_requests/1185
So we would be able to have either 6.10.7-2 or 6.10.8-1 at your
preference.
Aiming though to make 6.11.y and once ready 6.12.y go timely to
unstable as the later one is expected/likely the expected LTS version.
I'll let Steve comment on the preferred timings.
Ack!
So we are now there. linux/6.10.9-1 should now be able to migrate to
testing, no major issues were reported so far, and I think you can let
it go either with a hint or automatically to testing.
Indeed, linux{,-signed-{amd64,arm64}} migrated.
In parallel I'm still working on importing other versions, 6.10.10 was
released and is ready packaging wise. But now I would like to further
coordinate with you.
Would it be now a good time for planned d-i changes, sho should I hold
back the 6.10.10-1 and later uploads? If so, could you give me (please
CC me so i do not miss it) a ping when it is again fine to do an
upload?
I'm trying to see if I can get everything lined up for an upload that
would have a chance to migrate, which I think would be enough to unblock
Steve on the shim* front.

We'll need at least #1081698 addressed (or someone from the release team
happy to force debian-installer into testing despite the missing build).

I don't want to disrupt anything else going on, and I don't plan on
getting a d-i release out alongside that upload, so I'm not freezing
udeb-producing packages; hopefully, if the build situation is under
control, an `urgent` hint on my side should give debian-installer a
decent chance to migrate.

If Steve confirms having src:debian-installer into testing is sufficient
for the shim* fun, feel free to upload src:linux as soon as you spot the
migration. I'll try and keep an eye out and ping you once that happens,
though.
Please let me know, and if there is something else I blocking you from
my side.
At this point, I don't think so. Once we know whether the proposed
approach works for armel, we should be ready for i386 (see other
thread).
Once 6.11 would be released and we know it's stabilised in
experimental we would like to move it to unstable and make the way
free in experimental for 6.12-rcX, as the later is in particular
important to make 6.12.y ready as this is expected to be the next LTS
upstream stable version and so the one aimed for trixie.
Alright, thanks for the information.


Cheers,
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Steve McIntyre
2024-09-14 16:30:01 UTC
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Hey guys,
Post by Cyril Brulebois
So we are now there. linux/6.10.9-1 should now be able to migrate to
testing, no major issues were reported so far, and I think you can let
it go either with a hint or automatically to testing.
Indeed, linux{,-signed-{amd64,arm64}} migrated.
In parallel I'm still working on importing other versions, 6.10.10 was
released and is ready packaging wise. But now I would like to further
coordinate with you.
Would it be now a good time for planned d-i changes, sho should I hold
back the 6.10.10-1 and later uploads? If so, could you give me (please
CC me so i do not miss it) a ping when it is again fine to do an
upload?
I'm trying to see if I can get everything lined up for an upload that
would have a chance to migrate, which I think would be enough to unblock
Steve on the shim* front.
Nod.
Post by Cyril Brulebois
We'll need at least #1081698 addressed (or someone from the release team
happy to force debian-installer into testing despite the missing build).
I don't want to disrupt anything else going on, and I don't plan on
getting a d-i release out alongside that upload, so I'm not freezing
udeb-producing packages; hopefully, if the build situation is under
control, an `urgent` hint on my side should give debian-installer a
decent chance to migrate.
If Steve confirms having src:debian-installer into testing is sufficient
for the shim* fun, feel free to upload src:linux as soon as you spot the
migration. I'll try and keep an eye out and ping you once that happens,
though.
That looks great for me, thanks.
Post by Cyril Brulebois
Please let me know, and if there is something else I blocking you from
my side.
At this point, I don't think so. Once we know whether the proposed
approach works for armel, we should be ready for i386 (see other
thread).
Once 6.11 would be released and we know it's stabilised in
experimental we would like to move it to unstable and make the way
free in experimental for 6.12-rcX, as the later is in particular
important to make 6.12.y ready as this is expected to be the next LTS
upstream stable version and so the one aimed for trixie.
Alright, thanks for the information.
Nod.
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Cyril Brulebois
2024-09-14 22:40:01 UTC
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Hi,
Post by Steve McIntyre
Post by Cyril Brulebois
I'm trying to see if I can get everything lined up for an upload
that would have a chance to migrate, which I think would be enough
to unblock Steve on the shim* front.
Nod.
Great.
Post by Steve McIntyre
Post by Cyril Brulebois
We'll need at least #1081698 addressed (or someone from the release
team happy to force debian-installer into testing despite the
missing build).
That happened earlier today. Then britney was waiting on reproducible
tests, which might fail depending on r-b.o autobuilder configuration,
which I'm *not* tracking down today. I've used ignore-reproducible
accordingly, which by the way `hint clean` doesn't know about.
Post by Steve McIntyre
Post by Cyril Brulebois
I don't want to disrupt anything else going on, and I don't plan on
getting a d-i release out alongside that upload, so I'm not freezing
udeb-producing packages; hopefully, if the build situation is under
control, an `urgent` hint on my side should give debian-installer a
decent chance to migrate.
If Steve confirms having src:debian-installer into testing is
sufficient for the shim* fun, feel free to upload src:linux as soon
as you spot the migration. I'll try and keep an eye out and ping you
once that happens, though.
That looks great for me, thanks.
Then I think my work here is done:

***@respighi:~$ dak ls debian-installer -s testing,unstable -a source
debian-installer | 20240914 | testing | source
debian-installer | 20240914 | unstable | source

I'll let you give a final green light to kernel people.


Cheers,
--
Cyril Brulebois (***@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/>
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant
Steve McIntyre
2024-09-15 20:30:01 UTC
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Post by Cyril Brulebois
Post by Steve McIntyre
That looks great for me, thanks.
debian-installer | 20240914 | testing | source
debian-installer | 20240914 | unstable | source
I'll let you give a final green light to kernel people.
Cool. I've been a little delayed here (family medical emergency this
weekend), but I'm ready to start a build now.

Kibi: just checking, are you happy for me to call this trixie d-i
alpha 1?
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Cyril Brulebois
2024-09-15 21:10:01 UTC
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Post by Steve McIntyre
Kibi: just checking, are you happy for me to call this trixie d-i
alpha 1?
As communicated a few times in previous mails already: not at all.


Cheers,
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Cyril Brulebois (***@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/>
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant
Steve McIntyre
2024-09-15 21:30:01 UTC
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Post by Cyril Brulebois
Post by Steve McIntyre
Kibi: just checking, are you happy for me to call this trixie d-i
alpha 1?
As communicated a few times in previous mails already: not at all.
Understood, I'm glad I checked. I'll call this something else for my
own personal testing then.

Thanks for clarifying!
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afraid I'll miss my stop" -- Vivek Das Mohapatra
Salvatore Bonaccorso
2024-09-20 13:50:02 UTC
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Hi Steve,
Post by Steve McIntyre
Post by Cyril Brulebois
Post by Steve McIntyre
That looks great for me, thanks.
debian-installer | 20240914 | testing | source
debian-installer | 20240914 | unstable | source
I'll let you give a final green light to kernel people.
Cool. I've been a little delayed here (family medical emergency this
weekend), but I'm ready to start a build now.
Kibi: just checking, are you happy for me to call this trixie d-i
alpha 1?
Hope you and family are doing better already now.

Just double-checking as well, given debian-installer moved to testing,
is it now fine to do other src:linux uploads to unstable or are we yet
waiting to move with other changes in?

I'm happy to wait, but I think we would like to to at least another
6.10.y upload to unstable, 6.11-1~exp1 was earlier uploaded to
experimental by Ben.

Regards,
Salvatore
Steve McIntyre
2024-09-22 09:20:01 UTC
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Hey Salvatore!
Post by Salvatore Bonaccorso
Hope you and family are doing better already now.
Thanks!
Post by Salvatore Bonaccorso
Just double-checking as well, given debian-installer moved to testing,
is it now fine to do other src:linux uploads to unstable or are we yet
waiting to move with other changes in?
I'm happy to wait, but I think we would like to to at least another
6.10.y upload to unstable, 6.11-1~exp1 was earlier uploaded to
experimental by Ben.
Apologies for the slight delay - doing test builds here showed up a
couple of debian-cd bugs that needed fixing. All done now, though -
please go ahead!
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Salvatore Bonaccorso
2024-09-22 12:40:02 UTC
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Hi,
Post by Steve McIntyre
Hey Salvatore!
Post by Salvatore Bonaccorso
Hope you and family are doing better already now.
Thanks!
Post by Salvatore Bonaccorso
Just double-checking as well, given debian-installer moved to testing,
is it now fine to do other src:linux uploads to unstable or are we yet
waiting to move with other changes in?
I'm happy to wait, but I think we would like to to at least another
6.10.y upload to unstable, 6.11-1~exp1 was earlier uploaded to
experimental by Ben.
Apologies for the slight delay - doing test builds here showed up a
couple of debian-cd bugs that needed fixing. All done now, though -
please go ahead!
Thanks a lot, then I'm preparing the next upload.

Regards,
Salvatore

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