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Bug#1086831: task-xfce-desktop: recommends transitional network-manager-gnome
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Simon McVittie
2024-11-06 13:00:02 UTC
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Package: task-xfce-desktop
Version: 3.77
Severity: minor
Tags: trixie sid
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This package Recommends network-manager-gnome, which is now a transitional
package.

If the functionality that it requires is /usr/bin/nm-connection-editor,
please recommend the nm-connection-editor package instead.

If the functionality that it requires is the nm-applet applet (tray icon)
indicating network status, please recommend the network-manager-applet
package instead.

If it requires both, please depend on both packages separately.

If it doesn't actually require either of those, but only the
NetworkManager daemon, you might want to recommend network-manager instead.

It might be better to remove some of the Recommends from task-xfce-desktop
entirely, and rely on the xfce4 or xfce4-goodies metapackages (which
are under the XFCE maintainers' direct control) to pull them in. GNOME
switched to this maintenance model during the trixie/sid cycle.

Thanks,
smcv
Holger Wansing
2024-11-12 20:10:01 UTC
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Hi,
Post by Simon McVittie
It might be better to remove some of the Recommends from task-xfce-desktop
entirely, and rely on the xfce4 or xfce4-goodies metapackages (which
are under the XFCE maintainers' direct control) to pull them in. GNOME
switched to this maintenance model during the trixie/sid cycle.
I support this approach (for the installer team).


Holger
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Holger Wansing
2024-11-12 21:00:01 UTC
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[ Resending with ***@packages.debian.org in CC ]


Hi,
Post by Simon McVittie
It might be better to remove some of the Recommends from task-xfce-desktop
entirely, and rely on the xfce4 or xfce4-goodies metapackages (which
are under the XFCE maintainers' direct control) to pull them in. GNOME
switched to this maintenance model during the trixie/sid cycle.
I support this approach (for the installer team).


Holger
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Yves-Alexis Perez
2024-11-13 07:10:01 UTC
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Post by Holger Wansing
Post by Simon McVittie
It might be better to remove some of the Recommends from task-xfce-desktop
entirely, and rely on the xfce4 or xfce4-goodies metapackages (which
are under the XFCE maintainers' direct control) to pull them in. GNOME
switched to this maintenance model during the trixie/sid cycle.
I support this approach (for the installer team).
Hey Holger, Simon,

While I'm not actively monitoring d-i bugs, we do keep an eye on the task-
xfce-desktop in tasksel in order to setup the basic Xfce desktop and try to
keep it consistent with xfce4/xfce4-goodies. At this point we don't really
have plans to trim completely the task-xfce-desktop dependencies but I'll keep
it in mind.

I'll update the network manager dependencies though.

Regards,
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Yves-Alexis
Holger Wansing
2024-11-12 21:00:01 UTC
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Hi,
Post by Simon McVittie
It might be better to remove some of the Recommends from task-xfce-desktop
entirely, and rely on the xfce4 or xfce4-goodies metapackages (which
are under the XFCE maintainers' direct control) to pull them in. GNOME
switched to this maintenance model during the trixie/sid cycle.
I support this approach (for the installer team).


Holger
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2024-11-13 08:00:02 UTC
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Bug #1086831 [task-xfce-desktop] task-xfce-desktop: recommends transitional network-manager-gnome
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