Trixie: closing in

[Cyril Brulebois]

Hi Holger,

Again, thanks for driving a number of discussions and changes over the
last few months, esp. on the partitioning side.

I would like to check with you whether some big changes are pending, or
whether things are settling down. It looks like the latter at the moment
but maybe I've missed some big things going on.

If we're entering a quieter period (after the 64-bit time_t transition,
partition-related changes, what to do about armel/i386, etc.), the next
question would be what the l10n side looks like. Publishing a release
means computing translation stats to decide whether to issue a warning
at the beginning of the installation process (basically “translation in
[language] is incomplete, are you sure you want to continue?”) and I
would really love to avoid having that pop up in as many languages as
possible.

With the let's say “technical upload” a few weeks back (to clear the
path for Steve's work), we lost 42 “5 F” languages. I see[1] that we
have a lot of translation work to release already, so I'll look into
that next. I'm not sure whether it would make sense to issue a call
for translations before everything already pending is merged, or if
we should just wait for those packages to get uploaded, migrated into
testing, before computing translation stats again.

1. https://d-i.debian.org/translations.txt


Other topics before a release include figuring out where we're at
regarding Secure Boot, libx11[2] issues (which will require at least
a fix plus rebuilds).

2. https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2024/11/msg00002.html


Cheers,

[Holger Wansing]

Hello,

Post by Cyril Brulebois
Hi Holger,
Again, thanks for driving a number of discussions and changes over the
last few months, esp. on the partitioning side.
I would like to check with you whether some big changes are pending, or
whether things are settling down. It looks like the latter at the moment
but maybe I've missed some big things going on.

There are some things going on on the partman front, however discussion
is already done, so it's just a matter of implementing it.

1.
"Add legacy_boot flag support for arm64 recipes"
<https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/partman-auto/-/merge_requests/21>

2.
"Disable automatic use and forceful format of existing swaps"
<https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/partman-basicfilesystems/-/merge_requests/9>



Another issue: I would like to push forward the blendsel topic
for Trixie.
However this waits for my dd application, but that stalled somewhat
recently due to illness, holiday, real life and similar on both my and the
AM side. Moreover, I realize that I lack some of the needed skills, so
I'm unsure, if I will ever manage to bring that to success.
Anyway, it would be good, to gain upload privileges for blendsel, to
have the possibility, to push blendsel forward separately from my
DD application.

Post by Cyril Brulebois
If we're entering a quieter period (after the 64-bit time_t transition,
partition-related changes, what to do about armel/i386, etc.), the next
question would be what the l10n side looks like. Publishing a release
means computing translation stats to decide whether to issue a warning
at the beginning of the installation process (basically “translation in
[language] is incomplete, are you sure you want to continue?”) and I
would really love to avoid having that pop up in as many languages as
possible.
With the let's say “technical upload” a few weeks back (to clear the
path for Steve's work), we lost 42 “5 F” languages. I see[1] that we
have a lot of translation work to release already, so I'll look into
that next. I'm not sure whether it would make sense to issue a call
for translations before everything already pending is merged, or if
we should just wait for those packages to get uploaded, migrated into
testing, before computing translation stats again.
1. https://d-i.debian.org/translations.txt

I think there's no need to hold back an alpha/beta release
because of translation status.
I will issue a call for translation updates shortly, but don't wait for
results IMO.


Greets
Holger

[Cyril Brulebois]

Hi,

and thanks for the swift reply.

Post by Holger Wansing
There are some things going on on the partman front, however discussion
is already done, so it's just a matter of implementing it.
1.
"Add legacy_boot flag support for arm64 recipes"
<https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/partman-auto/-/merge_requests/21>
2.
"Disable automatic use and forceful format of existing swaps"
<https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/partman-basicfilesystems/-/merge_requests/9>

Yeah, such things looked like isolated and targeted things, rather than
a major overhaul for everyone.

Post by Holger Wansing
Another issue: I would like to push forward the blendsel topic for
Trixie.

Sure, I didn't think of mentioning it outright, but that's another thing
that's on today's todo list.

Post by Holger Wansing
However this waits for my dd application, but that stalled somewhat
recently due to illness, holiday, real life and similar on both my and
the AM side.

Oh, sad to hear that. Get better soon!

Post by Holger Wansing
Moreover, I realize that I lack some of the needed skills, so I'm
unsure, if I will ever manage to bring that to success. Anyway, it
would be good, to gain upload privileges for blendsel, to have the
possibility, to push blendsel forward separately from my DD
application.

I couldn't act on the reject right away, but I totally agree that topic
and your application are independent (even if I might have used one to
push for the other one).

Feel free to follow up separately (and/or privately) regarding skills
etc.

Post by Holger Wansing
I think there's no need to hold back an alpha/beta release because of
translation status. I will issue a call for translation updates
shortly, but don't wait for results IMO.

Noted, thanks. I think my decision is going to depend on what the stats
look like after the round of uploads started minutes ago. :)


Cheers,

[Holger Wansing]

Hi,

Post by Cyril Brulebois
I couldn't act on the reject right away, but I totally agree that topic

I have already cleared up the issue, which lead to the reject, so
I think blendsel should be ready for upload.


Holger

Post by Cyril Brulebois
and your application are independent (even if I might have used one to
push for the other one).

[Pascal Hambourg]

Hi,

Post by Holger Wansing
There are some things going on on the partman front, however discussion
is already done, so it's just a matter of implementing it.

FWIW I just opened two more MRs for partman-auto.
Removal of grub-legacy support from grub-installer is still pending
Steve's review.
And I have a number of other fixes and improvements I would like to submit.